Games, Dares, and Consequences (M/M)

Post by **squirrel** » 1 month ago

Wow, amazing chapters! Can't wait what Danny will write... and how Charle will react to that

Post by **Camguy2050** » 1 month ago

Hey @Chairtiedguy
this is a great story and i wish i had that growing up
i am really looking forward to see the next chapter
hope it is not going to take too long for the next one to appear

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 1 month ago

Camguy2050 wrote: 1 month ago Hey @Chairtiedguy
this is a great story and i wish i had that growing up
i am really looking forward to see the next chapter
hope it is not going to take too long for the next one to appear

Wish I would have had that growing up as well. Certainly an ideal way to learn and have a positive experience. Thank you!

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 1 month ago

Part 11

Charlie was relaxing while Danny was busy making his list of what he wanted from his dad. Charlie's cell phone rang and he made a strained expression when he saw the name, but answered it right away. Good morning Lydia, Charlie said to his ex-wife, how are you doing this morning? Lydia responded that she was doing well, but needed to ask him a favor. What do you need, Charlie asked? Instead of Danny coming to see me just after his birthday, she replied, do you think I could come there and stay for his birthday? It is his sixteenth, she said, and that is a special one. It is, Charlie responded, you want to stay here with us then? Yes, she replied, if it won't be a problem, but if you have someone else with you then I will find another option. No, Charlie replied, there is no one else in the picture, so please you are welcome to stay here. Thank you, Lydia replied, it will only be for two or three days. Let me know when you are planning on arriving so I can make sure everything is taken care of, Charlie said. Do you have a party planned already, Lydia asked? Not a big one, Charlie said, Danny just wanted to have a few friends over for a game night for his big day. Grown ups are not allowed, she asked? No, Charlie replied, there will be some parents here like Hank and his wife, and one or two others. Since most of his friends don't drive, the kids will have their party in the living room, and the adults will hang out in the kitchen. That doesn't sound like much of a party, Lydia said, but I guess this is what you do when there isn't much family around. True, Charlie said, but I think Danny expected you to have a party for him at your house this year as well.

That was a thought, she replied, but I just don't have the time to put one together, and he really doesn't know many people here. I get that, Charlie said, but don't you two usually go to out for dinner somewhere and then do something afterwards? We have, she replied, and I would love to do that this year as well, but I can't here right now. Are you doing okay, Charlie asked. Oh yes, Lydia replied, I just have so much to do for work and I started seeing someone that I don't want Danny to meet yet. I don't know if this relationship is going to go anywhere, and I think it just might bother Danny having me with someone else around. Is that why you are coming here, Charlie asked? Well, yes, she replied, I figure by the time that he would come here again, I would know what was going on with this relationship by then. It has really only just started in the last few weeks. Very well then, Charlie said, let me know when you will arrive and I will pick you up if you want.

Oh, I figure I will rent a car to get around, Lydia replied, that way if Danny and I get the chance to sneak off alone for a little while, I won't have to impose on you. Your decision, Charlie said, I would have helped if you wanted. No, she replied, you have enough to do without worrying about taking care of your ex wife. I appreciate your thoughts on this, Charlie replied, and if that is what you want to do, I am fine with it.

Okay, Lydia said, I will call you back when I get my arrangements finalized and then see you soon I guess. Okay, Charlie replied, I will wait for your call. See you soon, he said as he hung up the phone.

Danny walked over to Charlie and asked, is mom coming here? Yes Danny, he replied, that is the game plan. Guess she has too much going on at home for you to visit at this time, so she is coming here to celebrate your birthday with you. Okay, Danny said, a little confused. So that means I am not going out to stay with her then? Right, Charlie said, she will have you out later on this year when her schedule clears up. Danny thought about it for a few moments and breathed a sigh of relief. Good, he said, I wasn't looking forward to flying out there right now. So you aren't upset then, Charlie asked? Not this time, Danny replied, but it is going to be weird having her here for my birthday. Does this upset you, Charlie ask? No, he replied, not really. But mom staying here is going to feel weird after all this time. I'm sure you will like having her here for your birthday, and a day or two, Charlie said, make the most of your opportunities.

Danny sat down across from Charlie and slid a piece of paper toward him. Have you done the list of what you are looking for already, Charlie asked? Years in the making, Danny said, I have been wishing for an opportunity like this since I was twelve, but never had the nerve to bring up the subject. What about Larry, Charlie asked, has he been looking for this kind of thing for years as well? Not sure for how long, Danny replied, but he told me last night that he has enjoyed these kind of challenges since he learned knots in scouts. That had to be when he was seven or eight, Charlie said, and it only comes to the surface now? With me I guess, Danny said, he said he and his scout friends have been doing this for a long time. But I thought you two just started these challenges, Charlie replied. We did, Danny said, Larry wanted to make bets on the outcomes of our video games and we tried to figure out what fate awaited the loser. Who suggested the tie up challenges, Charlie asked, you or Larry? Me, Danny said somewhat quietly. I see, Charlie said, so you have a real interest in this then. I do, Danny said, is it wrong? Is there something wrong with me that I think this would be fun? No Danny, Charlie said, I said this before, it is normal for boys to be interested in stuff like this. You just have to be careful of who you trust and that you are in a safe place. I already told you about my past with playing these games. What would mom think, Danny asked, should I tell her? Danny, Charlie said, if you decide you want to share this with your mom, I am not going to stop you. However, I can tell you from personal experience, she isn't comfortable with it, nor does she like it. Is that one of the reasons you two divorced, Danny asked? Not a big reason, Charlie replied, we were just not a good fit, and we didn't give each other the best of ourselves like we should have. Okay, Danny said, at least I know not to ask her to tie me up. Good thought, Charlie replied, I don't see that being on your mom's to do list ever.

Now, Charlie said, let's look at this list you have here. Charlie read over the page, taking his time to consider what was written on it. He looked over the top of the paper at his son, as if to say, are you sure. But he read it all and then set the paper down. Well, he said, you didn't mince any words here. What do you think, Danny asked, you're not mad are you? No, Charlie replied, but there is some stuff you have written that I think you should reconsider. We can go over this one at a time so we are clear and I understand exactly what you mean. Okay, Danny said hesitantly.

So if I understand this first thing, Charlie said, you want me to teach you the mechanics of tying up someone, as well as, escaping from being tied up by someone. If I understand what to do to tie someone up effectively Danny replied, I think I should also know what to do should someone tie me up well. Well, Charlie said, that is truly how this works, the more experience you have in tying, the more you know what to expect to have to endure when you are tied. But it has to be me, he said, not your friend Larry? You will be fair with me, Danny said, I trust you more than anyone. I get that, Charlie said, but I m not sure your mom would think I was much of a father for tying you up. You aren't going to hurt me dad, Danny said, you are helping me. But realize that you could end up getting injured, Charlie said, even if I tied you up in a padded room, things can still happen to cause injury. I know, Danny said, but once I know what to expect and know how to do this for someone else, I am sure I will feel more comfortable doing this with people my age.

How much time are you planning on putting into this, Charlie asked? I want to spend as much time as possible learning this, he replied. But you have school, homework, track, and soon a job and have to make sure they are your top priorities. You have to have time to sleep as well. It needs to fit in when you have time, not have the other stuff fit in around this. I know, Danny said, I have wanted to do this for so long, that it is all I think about. I promise not to let my responsibilities go, or suffer, Danny replied. I better not see your grades slip or anything young man, Charlie said. But if you keep up on the important stuff, I will help you with this.

You want me to tie you up one weekend and not untie you, Charlie read out loud. Just leave you tied up all weekend until you either escape on your own, or have to get ready for school on Monday. That is not a healthy request, Charlie said, I thought I told you about time limits and the negative effect it would have on your body if you were tied up too long. Perhaps we need to have a better discussion about this. I just want to know what it feels like to be helpless and learn how to cope with situations I have no control over, Danny replied. Coping with tough things is what builds character you always say. This isn't what I had in mind when I said that, Charlie responded. You are no where near ready to even contemplate this yet, Charlie added, so we are going to omit this one for now. For now, Danny said curiously? We can talk about something longer range once you have gotten enough experience dealing with tying and being tied. I still would never agree to a multiple day tie up though. I get it, Danny said, but it couldn't hurt to ask.

Careful what you wish for my son, Charlie said, you might get your wish and then truly regret it. Keep your wants safe and sane, he continued. You will be the better for it. Sure dad, Danny replied as he looked down at the table. Now, Charlie said, what do we have next.

Charlie tilted the paper downward so as to see Danny's face and the paragraph all at one time. You want to tie me up, Charlie said, why? I want to see how you handle being tied up and what you do to escape, Danny replied, I might be able to pick up some pointers by watching you work, rather than just hearing about it. Picture is worth a thousand words you think, Charlie said. I think it would be good for me to see you work your way out of something especially if it is difficult, Danny replied. Who is going to tie me into that situation, Charlie asked, do you think you can do it properly? I should be able to if you teach me. That isn't going to be for some time, I would suspect, Charlie replied. Some things are worth the wait, Danny said. Good answer, Charlie laughed, okay, I will keep this on the list for future date. Really, Danny said, you will let me tie you up? When you are ready and I think you can do it properly, Charlie replied. Cool!, Danny shouted like he won a major track event. Take it easy champ, Charlie replied, don’t put the cart before the horse here. I won’t, Danny said, but at least now I have something to work toward. Oh, Charlie replied, you are going to be working all right, he teased. I promise you this, Charlie added, every improvement you make will be followed up with a tougher challenge. When I see that you are where I think you need to be, we can move on to your tying me. I will show you, Danny said, it won’t be too long until I will get there. We will see, Charlie said, time will tell.
Charlie handed the paper back to Danny and told him to hold on to it in a safe place. IF you think of something else later on, add it to the bottom. We will revisit it in a few weeks. Thanks Dad, Danny replied, but can I ask you one more thing? Sure, Charlie replied, what’s on your mind.

Since it is still early, Danny said rather slyly, do you think you could start by tying me up now? Seriously!, Charlie exclaimed, did your rope marks ever fade? Yep, Danny replied, hardly a sign of anything. Fine, Charlie replied, go up to your room and be sure to are ready to spend some time working on your escape skills. Danny headed upstairs to his room, and Charlie followed him up the steps after locking the doors and grabbing more rope from the cabinet.

Post by **WhereAmI** » 1 month ago

Safe And Sane, sounds like a watered down new age soda put out by Poopsie Koala

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Great story Danny definitely needs a Tie-Up.

Post by **squirrel** » 1 month ago

Great wish list! I hope Danny gets all of those

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 4 weeks ago

Part 12

Charlie started up the stairs toward the spare room. Once he opened the door, he was surprised that Danny wasn’t already there waiting for him. As he turned around to leave the room, Danny appeared in the doorway. Are we going to use this room, Danny asked? Yes, Charlie replied, this is the best place for challenge ties for now. We will leave your night time set ups for your room.

You’ve changed your clothes, Charlie stated. I did, Danny said, this is the clothing I think is best for challenge ties. Shorts and a tee shirt, Charlie said, where did you get this idea. Actually, Danny said, from you. Me, Charlie said rather surprised. Yes, you, Danny replied, it is exactly what you were wearing in all those pictures I saw of you when Mr. Keagan tied you up. Fair, Charlie said, but that clothing leaves you more accessible for stricter ties. You might be better off wearing more loose fitting clothing and well as socks instead of those size 10 feet sticking out. What is wrong with being barefoot, Danny asked? Nothing, Charlie said, but it can lead to more difficult ties. Can we move on to the tying part yet, Danny asked excitedly. Yes, Charlie laughed, I guess we can, but I want to know how you were tied up last night.

Other than the overnight tie, Danny said, I was hogtied, and then chair tied. You were tied up three different times last night, Charlie questioned? Yes, Danny said, we spent some time working on ties. How was Larry tied last night, Charlie asked? Same as me, Danny replied, hogtied, and then chair tied. And did either of you escape on your own from these, Charlie inquired? I got out of the hogtie, and Larry got out of the chair tie. Is that how you ended up tied to the bed, Charlie asked? No, that wasn’t about the challenges as much as being curious to try that out. Your idea then, Charlie said. Well, yes, Danny admitted shyly, it gave me the chance to try to fall asleep while tied. Evidently it worked, Charlie said, as you had to try to wake up Larry once you woke up yourself. We were both tired by the end of the night, Danny said, so I wasn’t surprised too much when I was still tied in the morning.

So, Charlie asked, how do you want me to tie you now? Something a little different than we’ve done so far, Danny said, but more difficult. More difficult, Charlie said, I don’t know if you are ready for more difficult yet. Let me try, Danny said, if it is too much, we will dial it back and start over. You’re sure, Charlie asked? Yes, Danny replied exasperated, make it difficult. Okay, Charlie said, you asked for it. Hands behind your back Danny, Charlie instructed. Danny gladly stepped in front of Charlie, hands behind his back.

Put your palms together, Charlie stated, and I will get this going. Charlie took a 10 foot length of rope and began to wrap coils around both wrists, cinching it every two wraps. He then changed direction and wrapped the rope multiple times in between Danny’s wrists, tying the final knot above Danny’s wrists, away from probing fingers. That’s kind of tight, Danny said, is the rope different?

Excellent rope detection skills, Charlie said, yes, I am using cotton clothesline which will make your escape more difficult. As for the tightness, Charlie continued, I can assure you there is ample room for blood flow and enough space that you won’t be hurt. Perhaps, it might be nerves, Charlie teased. Nope, Danny said, keep going. As you wish, Charlie said as he grabbed a 25 foot coil and started wrapping it around Danny’s arms and chest. He made sure to knot it every two wraps, and then ran the rope between Danny’s arms and chest and bringing it over one shoulder, before wrapping between the other arm and chest, returning back over the other shoulder before tying the last knot in between his shoulder blades. Nice, Danny said, really snug. So you approve, Charlie laughed. Yes, Danny responded happily. Okay, Charlie said, walk over to the chair and sit down.

Danny did as he was told. Once he was seated, Charlie instructed him to put his ankles together. Charlie grabbed another 10 foot length and tied Danny’s ankles the same way as his wrists, placing the final knot between his ankles as far from reach as possible. Feels good, Danny said. Good, Charlie said, wasn’t what I was expecting to hear. Can’t wait for you to continue, Danny replied. You want more than what I have done so far, Charlie asked?

Well, don’t you think this is a good enough start to work on, Charlie asked? I thought it would be harder, Danny said, Larry makes his ties much harder. How difficult do you want this to be, Charlie inquired. I want to feel like there is no chance of escape, Danny said, totally helpless. I thought we agreed we would wait for helpless after you got used to being tied up a while, Charlie replied. Oh come on, Danny said, I thought you were going to make it difficult. How difficult Danny, Charlie asked directly. Totally, Danny replied, like there was no way in the world I could get out. You realize what totally helpless means right, Charlie said. Yeah, I do, Danny said, unable to move, scream, or in some cases see. Gagged and blindfolded too, Charlie said. That would be pretty intense. Go big or go home, Danny said. You really want me to go that far today, Charlie asked again. Yep, Danny said, I can take it. Your sure, Charlie said, no going back if you say yes now. I’m sure, Danny said. Okay, Charlie said with a sigh, I’ll be back in a minute.

Charlie left the room, and returned shortly with a drawstring bag. Danny looked at the worn denim bag and wondered where his dad got that. He hadn’t noticed it anywhere before. Alright there Danny, Charlie said, while opening the top of the bag, speak now while you can. Charlie pulled a long soccer sock out of his bag. Danny watched as he rolled up a smaller sock and put it halfway down the length of the soccer sock. Charlie walked behind Danny and told him to open wide. Danny did as he was told and felt his dad shoving the bulky wad in the sock into his mouth. Once he got the bulk of it into Danny’s mouth, he pulled the ends of the sock tightly behind his head forcing the sock and stuffing further into his mouth, before tying it off behind his head rather tightly. Next, Charlie pulled out a large bandanna and rolled it up lengthwise and placed it over the sock he just tied around Danny’s mouth. The bandanna covered most of the sock and once tied behind Danny’s neck made sound much more impossible. How is that Danny, Charlie asked? Mmphh, Danny replied rather faintly. Well, no turning back now, Charlie said, lets get you on the floor. Danny tried to stand and Charlie helped him to the floor laying him on his stomach. He grabbed a few more lengths of rope and tied above and below Danny’s knees, and then another coil around his thighs.

He grabbed another coil and had Danny bend his knees raising his ankles. Charlie wrapped rope around the already bound ankles and then ran the rope up to the ropes around Danny’s chest and arms. He pushed on Danny’s ankles moving them closer to his wrists, while pulling on the rope in order to bend his knees and force his ankles closer to his wrists. Once he thought he had Danny’s ankles as close as they could get, he tied a knot between Danny’s shoulder blades to help hold them in place, and then ran the rope toward his wrists, and made a wrap around them. From there Charlie brought the rope back to Danny’s ankles and made another few wraps around them. He tied the final knot right at the top of Danny’s ankles, furthest away from his fingers. Mmphh, Danny complained as he tied the final knot. Difficult enough, Charlie said to Danny as he picked himself up off the floor. Danny could only make a few muffled grunts to reply. Still not enough, Charlie said to Danny shaking his head no. Let’s just finish this off right, Charlie said as he grabbed a shoelace from the denim bag. He took the shoelace and began to tie Danny’s big toes together, wrapping around and in between them, making sure to leave enough room for the blood flow. Mmphh, Danny moaned into his gag. Really ups the strictness of the tie doesn’t it, Charlie said. Now all we need to do is add the blindfold and I can go about the rest of my day. Charlie pulled another soccer sock out of the bag and used it as a blindfold for Danny. Be happy these socks are clean, Charlie said, if they weren’t, this challenge would be much more difficult.

Well, there you go son, Charlie said, hope this is what you were looking for. I would tell you tell me when you want to be untied, but I guess that would be impossible now. See, when you aren’t gagged and blindfolded, it is much easier to let someone know when you want to be released. Now you aren’t in control anymore. We didn’t discuss a non verbal signal, but you insisted I make it difficult. Well, Charlie said, this is what I would call difficult. Now that you have what you wanted, I will leave you to your escape. Let me know when you are free, Charlie said as he left the room, closing the door behind him.

Charlie stood just behind the closed door and paused for a minute to collect himself. He had no intention of leaving Danny tied up for more than a few minutes. Need to give him just enough time to realize what he just got himself into. He walked to the top of the steps because he thought he heard something downstairs, but wasn’t sure what it was. Then the doorbell rang. Great, Charlie said to himself, who could that be?

Post by **WhereAmI** » 4 weeks ago

Danny ask for it, Danny got it, Danny is going to be sorry when Charlie gets to talking with the visitor and forgets what he doing for a while.

Post by **squirrel** » 4 weeks ago

so great to see Danny hogtied, gagged and blindfolded! I wonder it he likes his father's attitude...

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

Part 13

Charlie stood there for a second trying to decide whether he should answer the door or just pretend he wasn’t home. A bang on the door told him that he needed to see what was going on. He descended the steps as quickly as possible and headed to the door. He unlocked the door and opened it just a crack to see who was there.

Come on Charlie boy, Hank said, what’s going on with the locked door? Hank, Charlie replied a little surprised, what brings you here in such a rush? Not really a rush Charlie, Hank replied, as much as I needed to talk to you. You could have called you know instead of driving all the way over here. No, Hank said, I couldn’t and we need to have a serious talk right now. Did something happen that requires this urgency? Well, Hank said rather sheepishly, I found out about something that I need to make you aware of, and I don’t want you to hear if from anyone else. Wait, Hank stopped suddenly, where is Danny? He’s busy working on a project at the moment, Charlie said nervously, why? You sure he won’t hear us talking, or interrupt us for a while, Hank asked. I’m pretty sure he will be busy for a quite a while, Charlie said, but if you want I can go check to see how involved he is. I don’t want him to know I am here, Hank said, but maybe kind of make sure he isn’t planning on walking in on us. Why are you so nervous, Charlie asked, but wait here and let me see how the boy is doing. Don’t let on that I am here, Hank said, please. Sure, Charlie laughed, no problem. Sit down and I will make some coffee when I get back.

Charlie ran up the steps and let out a relieved sigh. Thankfully, Hank wasn’t wondering more where Danny was, and more so that he didn’t follow me up here. Charlie opened the door to see how Danny was doing. Danny let out a few grunts that sounded less than happy as Charlie approached his son. Danny had made no visible progress and looked like he must have been doing quite a bit of struggling, as he was starting to glisten with sweat. Charlie got down close to Danny’s ear and started whispering to him. Sorry Danny, Charlie started, but unexpected company has arrived. I can’t let them find you this way, nor do I have time to set you free. So, you wanted to know what helpless and difficult feels like, Charlie continued, I think you have your wish. The problem is, I have no idea how soon I will be able to come back to watch you work on your escape. So far, your body doesn’t look like there are any issues, so I am going to have to leave you here until my company leaves. Hope you are enjoying your time. On the off chance you aren’t enjoying this, Charlie paused, remember that I asked you several times if you were sure. I will be back kiddo.

Charlie returned to the kitchen and started a pot of coffee. Hank was sitting at the table looking nervous and annoyed at the same time. So, Charlie said, what’s got you on edge? I have something to tell you, Hank said, that I just found out in the last several hours. Okay, Charlie said, just relax and tell me what is going on. Well, Hank said, I don’t know if you are aware of it, but it appears our kids are into playing tie up games. Oh, Charlie responded, how do you know this? Well, Hank said, the boys were upstairs almost all night, and I thought they were playing video games, like they always do. However, when I was upstairs changing into my night wear, I heard someone in Larry’s room ask if it was tight enough. I thought maybe I heard it wrong and they were just playing a close game. Then I thought I heard a muffled, almost gagged like response. Now, I know my kid has been in scouts for years and those boys were good for tie up challenges between each other, but I never thought Larry was really into them. Now, I wanted to know what it was I was hearing. What did you do, Charlie asked as he poured Hank a cup of coffee, you didn’t walk in on them did you? No, Hank said, I just kind of peeked in the door by opening it the tiniest crack. I can’t believe I actually saw this, but Larry had Danny hogtied on the floor and was opening up my private storage tin. Private storage tin, Charlie asked quizically? The one I keep all the pictures of you tied up in, Hank said nervously, all the different challenges I put you into. I thought I had it was well hidden, but it appears my son found my stash and was showing them to your hogtied kid. I told you that taking those pictures was going to come back to haunt me, Charlie said, and now I have to explain them to my son. Yes, Hank said, I am so sorry, I didn’t think anyone would find that tin. So, Charlie asked, did you talk to Larry about this? Yes, Hank replied, but the conversation isn’t over yet. What about you, Hank asked, what are you going to do about it? Me, Charlie said, me, now that my kid was shown pictures that I didn’t get to prepare him for?

I’m so sorry, Hank said, again, I thought I had them safe. Well, Charlie replied, they weren’t, so what do you suppose we should do? I don’t know why you are getting so mad at me, Hank said, aren’t you the one training them how to do tie ups properly? Charlie’s face changed quickly, from trying to hide the fact that his son was hopelessly tied up in the spare bedroom, to this. Why didn’t you tell me you were training them, Hank asked. I left it up to Larry to have that conversation with you, Charlie began. I only found out recently myself that Danny was into playing these types of tie up games, but neither seemed like they knew what they were doing. Since I didn’t want either boy to get hurt, Charlie continued, I offered to teach them guidelines to keep them safe. What I didn’t expect was that it would lead to me teaching them about tying someone up safely. So, Hank said, you’ve tied up my son as well? Yes, Charlie said, I should have said something to you, but since I didn’t know how this would go, I wanted to let Larry tell you himself. And, Hank said, what were you going to do if he didn’t? I didn’t get the chance to reach the point that I knew I would need to, Charlie replied. So, Charlie said, I guess we are even in a way. Not really, Hank said, I still think I owe you a little more leeway on this, as I don’t know how Danny is reacting to seeing those pictures.

Do you think I could go up and talk to him about it, Hank asked? Not right now, Charlie replied, but I think it might be a good idea for you and I to talk to the boys together. Maybe, Hank replied, but we need to do it soon. We can’t let this go without making sure the boys understand what it is we were doing. I think they will understand it just fine, Charlie smirked, my guess is they already think they know. Well, Hank replied, we need to make sure they don’t think they have something over us either. If we approach this right, Charlie said, they might just appreciate us. So, Hank asked, do you think I can help with these training sessions? Possibly, Charlie said, but you need both the boys to be on board with that. You think they won’t be, Hank asked? No, Charlie said, I think they will be accepting of it, But, he continued, it can’t become a challenge between us as to tying and escaping principles. You think I would turn this into a competition, Hank asked annoyed? I think that you aren’t a fan of the being tied up part, Charlie replied, and find more value in keeping someone tied up. Just because I don’t care to be tied, Hank said, doesn’t mean I’m not in awe of being able to escape. Well, Charlie said, I wasn’t so sure you were, but if you truly are, we shouldn’t have any problem. So, Hank said, when do you want to have this meeting with our kids? Let me know what works for you and Larry, and I will see if Danny and I can accommodate that, Charlie replied. But, Charlie added, we should meet here so we won’t alert your wife to this, unless you want to tell her. No, Hank said, she would probably kill me if she knew. Well, Charlie said, what happens if she finds out and you didn’t tell her? I don’t want to deal with that right now, Hank said, but you have a point. Are you going to tell Lydia, Hank asked? I will weigh that when she is here for Danny’s birthday. Lydia is coming here, Hank asked a little surprised? Yes, Charlie said, and it will be up to Danny to decide what he wants his mom to know at this point. For all we know, it could be a passing fad. Yeah, Hank said, like for you. Don’t lie to me and tell me you don’t enjoy tying me up in those challenges of yours, Charlie retorted. Me, Hank said, you’re going to lay it all on me? You were the one that showed up last night, Charlie said, rope kit in hand. I was sure that was what you were hinting for at the store, Hank said.

Wait, Hank said as if light suddenly dawned on him, you were buying that rope for the boys weren’t you. Maybe some of it, Charlie said, I didn’t want to run short, or not have the right materials. You rotten so and so, Hank said, you should have told me. Not right there in the store, Charlie said, and you had me tied up so fast and gagged so tight, that I couldn’t tell you last night if I wanted to. You might have a point, Hank said, but I should have seen it before this. Well, don’t beat yourself up, Charlie said, but sorry again if you feel like I went behind your back on this. I get it, Hank said, but we need to make sure we are on the same page when we talk with the boys. Sounds good, Charlie said, you have a deal.

Hank finished his coffee and got up from the table. I should be going, Hank said. Don’t want my wife wondering where I got to. Okay, Charlie said as he walked with Hank to the door. See you later, Hank said, and I will call you tomorrow to discuss this meeting and set up a time for it. I will be waiting for that call, Charlie said as he waved to Hank getting in his van. Charlie closed and locked the door again, and looked at his watch quickly, Danny's been tied up for more than an hour, Charlie thought, I have got to get him out of that, but first maybe something else he said as a slight smile crossed his face. Charlie raced up the steps to see how Danny was doing.

Post by **WhereAmI** » 3 weeks ago

Seems like Hank likes to cause a little trouble but doesn't want any to land on his doorstep. I sure hope Danny is alright and not hanging like an animal caught in a fence.

Post by **squirrel** » 3 weeks ago

Somethin tells me that Danny and Larry will soon be tied up together by their fathers

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

Part 14

Once Hank got a short distance from the house, he pulled onto the gravel road and drove a little ways before pulling over on the side of the road. He got up from the driver’s seat and walked to the side of the windowless delivery van and opened the sliding door. There in full view, tethered to hooks in the floor, was a bound and gagged Larry. Don’t complain to me young man, Hank said to his son, you earned this. Larry was literally in the same tied up situation as his friend Danny. The difference seemed to be that Larry was gagged much tighter, including multiple wraps of duct tape sealing off any chance of anyone hearing him. Sorry kid, he said, you buddy wasn’t available, so we will have to have a more productive conversation later. Turns out, he said, Charlie admitted he has been training you two about tie ups, so you are off the hook for that. Now it’s a matter of teaching you not to go snooping into others property. I didn’t believe for sure that he was training you, that’s why I insisted you show me how much you had learned. It’s a little ways to get home, but since you look comfortable and don’t seem to be getting very far, we can take the long way home. Of course, I plan on taking the back roads to make your trip so much more fun. We’ll stop at the store to see how things are there first, Hank said, and if you behave, I’ll give you something to drink before we head home. Hank slid the door closed, and headed back to the driver’s seat. He started the van and headed down the gravel road.

Charlie got to the door of the spare room and waited. He needed not to be out of breath when he entered. He listened to see if he could hear anything going on, and only heard a few barely audible grunts. He opened the door slowly to see that Danny had managed to get the blindfold off and had moved closer to the bed. Probably trying to rub against something to get rid of the gag he figured. He entered the room and spoke to Danny. Still here I see. I hate to say it, Charlie continued, but it seems our company is going to be here a while longer. So, I came up here to see how you are doing. I only have a few minutes to check on you, and I can’t have you making any noise to let them know you are home. He heard an audible moan from Danny. Oh, Charlie said, can’t have you making any noise. He grabbed the roll of duct tape and added a few wraps around his mouth and head to make the gag more sound proof. Charlie then walked over to the closet door and opened it so the full length mirror on the back of the door would show Danny just exactly what he looked like in this position. Danny took in the image of himself all bound and gagged helplessly and tried wiggling to see just how limited his movement was. Danny gave a small whimper and surrendered his attempts.

Charlie then grabbed Danny by the feet and dragged him toward the foot board of the bed. Once he had Danny’s legs up against the post of the foot board, he took another piece of rope and attached his ankles and legs to it. That, Charlie said, will stop you from being able to move around. Danny moaned again. Hmm, Charlie said, I need to make sure this will keep you quiet and anchored. What to do, he said. Charlie again moved the closet door so Danny could once again see his predictament. Charlie returned to Danny and stood at the foot of the bed. A smile brushed across Charlie’s face as he took his hand and grabbed Danny’s bound big toes. This little piggy went to market, he started. Danny tried to get away from his fathers fingers. This little piggy stayed home, Charlie continued as he moved to the next toe. This little piggy had roast beef, as he continued to go after Danny’s exposed toes. And this little piggy had ticklish feet, Charlie said as he took his fingers and ran them over the soles of Danny’s feet. Danny did everything he could to get away from his dad’s touch, while doing his best to scream stop. Good, Charlie said, looks like you should be quiet and immoble for a while. See you later I guess, Charlie said as he headed for the door. Danny did everything he could to protest as his dad walked to the door. Wait, Charlie said while turning around, did you want to be untied? Danny shook his head yes over and over again. Had enough for now I take it, Charlie said, but you wanted to know what helpless was. Are you sure you have learned a valuable lesson? Danny shook his head yes again. Very well then, I will think about it.

Charlie turned to walk out the door, and made sure to hum a little tune on his way out the door. He closed the door behind him and waited for a moment. He heard Danny trying to call him back and waited for it to die down for a moment. It wasn’t too much longer before he heard the room go silent and his struggling stop. He reopened the door, and said, Okay, times up!

He walked over to Danny and started to untie his legs from the bedpost. Then he bent down to remove the gag. Once he got the tape peeled off, he started to remove the bandanna and the soccer sock from Danny’s mouth. Danny took in a large breath and blew it out slowly. Charlie opened a bottle of water he had brought up with him and gave Danny some water. Danny drank quickly and downed most of the bottle in one gulp. Wow Dad, Danny said, I didn’t think it would be like this. Are you sore, Charlie asked? Not really, but I do want to stretch my legs so bad. You know, Danny said, tying my big toes together really did make everything seem so much stricter than just having my ankles tied. You lose a lot of movement, Charlie replied. Normally, I wouldn’t do that to someone just starting out with tie ups, but you were pretty adamant you could handle it. Yeah, Danny said, I really thought it wouldn’t be this difficult. Charlie continued to untie Danny as they spoke. Danny suddenly let out a huge sigh of relief once Charlie undid the hogtie, and Danny’s legs dropped to the floor. It took Charlie a few more minutes to release Danny from the rest of his bindings. Once Danny was completely free of the ropes, Charlie helped him stand up and sat him in the chair.

Take a minute or two to get yourself situated, Charlie said, then you can clean up all the rope and duct tape and put it away. Charlie grabbed the socks he used to gag Danny and the denim bag and left the room. He came back a few minutes later to see Danny picking up the ropes and recoiling them. Charlie decided to help him finish and before long everything was put away or thrown out. Go take a shower and meet me downstairs when you are done, Charlie said, we have something more to talk about. Can’t I get a nap or something first, Danny asked. Normally I would say sure, Charlie replied, but this is important. Okay dad, Danny replied, I will be down shortly.

Meanwhile at the hardware store, Hank had just finished parking near the rear door. He went to the side of the van to check on Larry, who was still in the same position he was when he checked on him at the side of the road. So, Hank said to Larry, have we learned anything yet? Larry made a few barely audible grunts and shook his head yes. Very well, Hank said, I’m going to give you a little bit of a break and untie you while we are at the store. Do or say anything stupid and expect to be right back where you are now, Hank said rather sternly. He undid the ropes that held Larry’s legs an inch from his butt and wrists. Larry let out a slow groan that told Hank that it felt good to him. I should have taken a picture of this, Hank said, but I don’t want to have pictures of something that isn’t a friendly challenge. Once he untied Larry completely, he told Larry he had to remove his own gag. It took Larry some time to find the end of the duct tape to start unraveling it. Once he peeled off the tape, he removed the bandanna holding in the stuffing his dad used to keep him quiet. Finally he was able to spit out the balled up sock that was keeping his mouth packed and dry. That tasted terrible, Larry said, what did you use, one of your used socks? No, Hank replied, one of yours. That’s gross, Larry said, why would you do that? Because I just grabbed anything I could find quick to keep you quiet, Hank replied, what did you use on your buddy last night to keep him quiet? A clean sock, Larry said, Mr O’Hara said you should always use clean socks or material to gag someone. Well, Hank said, maybe Charlie doesn’t like the taste. That’s sad, Larry said, I wouldn’t do that to anyone. Look young man, Hank said, keep up this attitude and you might as well shove that back in and we will get you all comfortable and quiet again.

Larry and Hank entered the rear of the store after Hank unlocked the door. Hank turned on the lights and headed toward the office. Larry followed behind and sat in one of the chairs when they entered the office. How are you feeling, Hank asked? Do you really care, Larry said, you had me tied up that way for the last hour and a half. I wanted to show you that being tied up isn’t always about sport, Hank replied it’s also about control. Control, Larry asked, control over what? Not over what, Hank said, over whom. So this is a control thing for you, Larry asked? It didn’t start out that way, Hank said rather soberly, but it kind of developed into it. So that is why you tie up Mr. O’Hara, Larry asked? Not really, Hank replied, it is a game we play. But I will be honest with you, he continued, I enjoy it when I have him tied up that he can’t get out. Why, Larry asked? It is just a feeling that creeps in and makes me feel superior in a way, Hank replied. Charlie is so good at beating my best attempts to win these challenges, that when he is tied up and unable to escape, I feel like I just won a marathon. Do you hate Mr. O’Hara that you need to win these challenges Larry asked? I don’t hate him, Hank said, he is my only real friend. Then why do you feel the need to win these, Larry said, is that why you keep those pictures? No, Hank replied, at least I don’t think so. That started because I wanted to try to remember what worked and what didn’t, so I could improve the challenges I gave Charlie. Did it work, Larry asked? It did help me figure out some things, Hank replied, but Charlie is better than my best efforts most of the time. Maybe, Hank said, this thing between you and Danny can help me find a way to learn a better way to give Charlie a real challenge on a regular basis. I don’t want to do anything to hurt Mr. O’Hara, Larry said, or Danny. I am not asking you to help me to hurt anyone, Hank said, just give me some incite into how he manages to find his way out.

Wait a minute, Larry asked, are you still tying up Mr. O’Hara? Hank just shrugged and said, yes. But not so often anymore, just when the opportunity presents itself. Did you tie him up last night, Larry asked? Yes, Hank said, and he escaped at the last possible minute. He won, Larry asked excitedly! Yes, Hank said, again. Worst part was, I had to let him tie me up because he won. Did you escape. Larry asked? Lets change the subject, Hank replied. So does he get to tie you up the next time you guys get to have a session, Larry asked? I said, Hank continued, let’s change the subject. Do me a favor and go out into the store and pick up some supplies. What do you want me to get, Larry asked? About 4 long coils of solid braid nylon rope, 4 coils of cotton clothesline, and 4 rolls of the heavy duty duct tape. Why, Larry askes cautiously. Because we may need some extra supplies in the near future, Hank said, now go!

Hank waited for Larry to leave the office and opened a hidden safe in the floor by his desk. Once he got the door open, he put the tin of pictures the kids found the night before inside then closed the safe. Larry returned shortly with the requested supplies. 800 feet of rope and 200 feet of heavy duty duct tape as requested, Larry said. Very good, Hank said, now let’s get out of here.
Danny made it down the steps after his shower. He looked refreshed some, but still tired. Get something to drink Charlie said, and if you want something to eat, you might as well get that too. Danny wasn’t sure what to make of his father’s current disposition. Was he mad at him, was he concerned, and mostly, why was he so direct at the moment. Danny got two bottles of water and a leftover slice of pizza from the refrigerator. He sat down at the table next to his father.

So, what do you want to talk about, Danny asked? I was serious when I said we had company while you were tied up in the spare room, Charlie said. Who, Danny asked? Mr. Keagan, Charlie said a little cautiously. He came to talk to me because he found out you boys found his tin with those pictures of me we talked about earlier. Oh, Danny replied, is he mad? I would say he is somewhat upset, Charlie replied, but more so he was embarrassed to tell me that someone besides him had viewed those pictures. He felt he needed to tell me himself before I heard if from someone else, Charlie continued, and I didn’t tell him we already talked about it. Rather, I let him think I wasn’t aware. He did want to talk to you himself Charlie continued and asked to see you. I told him you we working on a project and couldn’t be pulled away from it. You didn’t tell him I was tied up did you, Danny asked a little nervously. No, Charlie replied, I did not, and I wouldn’t want him coming upstairs to see you in that condition. It wouldn’t have been fair to you, he added, but I didn’t want Hank to know what was going on. So, Danny asked, what did Mr. Keagan say? He told me about you two playing tie up games and looking through his picture tin, Charlie responded, but he also said you were hogtied and gagged when Larry showed you. Is that correct, Charlie asked?

How did he know I was tied up at the time, Danny asked? I am not sure, Charlie replied, but is this true? Yes, Danny said flatly, Larry had me hogtied and gagged before he brought out that tin. Why do you think he did that to you, Charlie asked? Probably so I wouldn’t fight him on it, Danny said, and it was probably smart on his end. Why do you say that, Charlie asked? Because I wouldn’t have wanted him to open his dad’s private tin. So this way I couldn’t stop him, or make much noise as he showed me each individual picture. How did you react, Charlie questioned. Some of them made me mad, some of them made me curious, and some were just weird. I did a lot of grunting, Danny said, kind of like this afternoon.

Speaking of this afternoon, Charlie said, how are you feeling physically, and did I go too far? I feel pretty good actually, Danny said, and you didn’t go too far, I asked for that. Truth be known, Danny continued, I actually enjoyed most of it. Just got tired and wanted to stretch my legs near the end, Danny said. So you enjoyed being tied up like that, Charlie asked? Danny turned a shade a red but admitted that he actually did enjoy the challenge and just being tied that well. So, was there any part you hated, Charlie asked, and any part you liked more than the rest? I hated that I couldn’t find my way out, Danny said, but I really liked when you tickled my feet to make sure I couldn’t move or scream. Interesting, Charlie replied, I’ll keep that in mind.

Did you like being tied up that you couldn’t escape, Danny asked, and did anyone ever tickle you when you were tied up. I like the feeling of being tied up, Charlie said, the actual tying part of it. Just being tied up doesn’t make me happy, but I endure it because I like the challenge of escaping it.. As for someone tickling me, Charlie said, I don’t remember that happening, but I was put into some situations where I needed to escape before something would happen to me. Like dangerous, Danny asked? Could have been, Charlie said, but it never got to the point I was in danger of not escaping in time. I am sure my captor would not have let me get hurt. We will not be training you for that kind of thing, Charlie warned, it is never a good idea. Things can go wrong for unforeseen reasons, Charlie said, so don’t even contemplate doing anything like it. I won’t, Danny said.

Now, Charlie said, back to the subject at hand. Mr. Keagan found out I am training you two boys on safe tie up challenges, and wants to become part of this training. Cool, Danny said, that could be great. You are comfortable with both of us working together to train you and Larry then, Charlie said. Yeah, sure, Danny responded, why wouldn’t I? I didn’t think it would be an issue, Charlie said, but I wanted to be sure you wouldn’t mind being tied up by Mr. Keagan on occasion. I’m okay with it, Danny said, but are you? Yes, Charlie replied, I am, I just wanted to be sure it wouldn’t be a problem for you. Hank will be calling tomorrow to find out when we want to meet to do a session. Since he and I already agreed that the sessions would be held here, it’s just a matter of working out times that we are all available.

We aren’t going to do this when mom is here are we, Danny asked? No, Charlie said, I don’t think that would be a good idea. However Danny, Charlie said, I am leaving it up to you whether you want to share this with your mom or not. You want me to tell mom I play tie up challenges. Danny asked? I’m just saying that it is up to you whether you want her to know this part of your life right now, Charlie replied, don’t hide it if you don’t want to, but also don’t tell her if you are not comfortable with that either. I’m just letting you know I will support however you want to deal with this part of your life with your mom. Okay, Danny said somewhat relieved, I don’t know that I want to say anything about it yet. Then don’t, Charlie said, and I will keep it between us. Thanks Dad, Danny said, I appreciate that. Okay then, that’s what I needed to talk to you about for now. Feel free to go rest up or anything else you would like to do. I need a nap, Danny said, and time to think about what happened here this afternoon.

Post by **Camguy2050** » 3 weeks ago

@Chairtiedguy more chapters of exciting reading
i think Danny and Larry are in for some fun times

Post by **squirrel** » 3 weeks ago

Can't wait to see Danny and Larry trussed up by their Dads! Also, glad to see that Charlie and Hank are using duct tape to seal their sons' mouths shut

Post by **WhereAmI** » 3 weeks ago

Each chapter gets better and better, we must find out what happens with Larry and Danny.

Danny and Larry are going to have sso much fun. I hope Hank isn't going to get carried away with tying the boys up, like he did with Charlie, that the boys get scared of him tying them.

Post by **TightropesEU** » 3 weeks ago

Fantastic story, gets better and better.

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

TightropesEU wrote: 3 weeks ago Fantastic story, gets better and better.

Thank you. I hope that it continues to keep your interest and you find the story worthwhile. Appreciate the feedback!

Post by **latin-self-bound** » 3 weeks ago

Wonderful story!! I love how the characters are developing, how the boys are learning so much about this kind of games, and how the fathers are taking their time to teach everything to keep them safe.

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

latin-self-bound wrote: 3 weeks ago Wonderful story!! I love how the characters are developing, how the boys are learning so much about this kind of games, and how the fathers are taking their time to teach everything to keep them safe.

Thank you for your comments. I appreciate your feedback. Looking forward to posting more of this story soon.

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

Part 15

It was several days later. Lydia had come and gone, and they had a nice party for Danny’s sixteenth birthday. Charlie was sitting at the kitchen table reviewing the previous days events. He marveled at how Lydia seemed somehow happier than she had been the last time he saw her. She teased him when she arrived, but the comment that he liked the most was when she first saw him when he picked her up at the airport. Well, Charlie, Lydia said, you are getting better looking as you get older! Maybe I made a mistake leaving you. You look pretty good yourself, Charlie replied, life must be treating you well. They talked the whole ride back to the house in the car.

So, Lydia asked, am I going to find out that our son continues to take after you, or is there some glimmer of hope I might actually be his mom? You will have to see for yourself, Charlie replied, but he wondered what she was really asking.

Charlie fast forwarded to the party and the fact that the parents stayed in the kitchen of the house, while the party with the kids went on in the other rooms. Hank and his wife, Pamela, were both there for there with Charlie and Lydia. The boys attending were busy playing video games, board games, and eating all the pizza they could manage. The conversation around the table was mostly how big the boys were getting and how fast they were growing. Makes you remember the parties we used to have as kids, Hank said. Do you remember some of the games we used to play and how we tried to prove ourselves, Hank continued. I guess pin the tail on the donkey isn’t what you are referring to, Charlie teased. No, Pamela said, it was the games you hid that I remember. What do you mean, Hank responded almost insulted. You know what I mean, she said, I bet Charlie remembers a few that weren’t exactly his favorite. Oh, Lydia chimed in, your talking about those special challenges these boys used to put each other through. Yep, Pamela replied, was thinking these two would never outgrow them. What makes you think they have, Lydia teased? Oh, don’t tell me you two are still at it, Pamela said toward Hank. Hey, he replied, why are you bringing this up to me now after all this time? You did get carried away, Pamela replied, don’t you think he did Charlie? Charlie laughed and said, don’t hold him responsible for all of that, I did think I could beat anything he could come up with. You were very good at it, Hank said, but that was a long time ago. Yep, Charlie said, I don’t think you have to worry about that now. Lydia just gave a look at Charlie, but he wasn’t sure what to make of the smile that crept up in her eyes at the time.

You don’t think our boys are into that stuff do you, Pamela asked? Well, Lydia said, I haven’t thought so, but would they tell us if they were? Boys will be boys, Charlie injected, so if they do, it wouldn’t be a surprise would it? I guess not, Lydia replied, but if so, I hope they are at least smart about it. Are you saying that we weren’t smart about it, Charlie asked? Well, Pamela replied, I do remember a party you didn’t attend, but I know you arrived at. Okay, Charlie said, so everyone has an off day. Yeah, Hank laughed, that really wasn’t your day. You should be smirking, Pamela said, aren’t you the one who forgot about him? Can we please change the subject, Hank replied? I guess there’s no point in dredging up the past, Lydia said, but they are around that age now. They were around that age a few years ago, Charlie said, but then I can’t base everything on when I got interested in it. Did you start that nonsense or did Hank, Lydia asked. It was basically a mutual thing we discussed one day after seeing a movie that had a kid kidnapped in it, Charlie replied, and I was sure a toddler would have been able to escape that roping. So you decided to try it, Pamela asked? We talked about it Charlie answered, but we both figured we could do better. To be fair, Hank said, I was a scout and my pack friends were playing those games already. So you probably brought it up because you were the knot guru of your pack, Pamela laughed. Well, maybe, Hank laughed, I was really good at it. Okay, Charlie said, before the kids start listening to us, can we move on to something else? I guess, Lydia said, don’t want to give anyone any ideas.

Charlie then remembered taking Lydia back to the airport, and the conversation before she left. So, Lydia asked Charlie, did the apple fall far from the tree? What are you talking about, Charlie replied. Our son is more and more like you every year. He looks like you did when you were younger and he basically followed your athletic ventures. Okay, Charlie said, is it a bad thing that he likes running and baseball? No, Lydia replied, it isn’t, but I wonder if he follows your other hobbies. Are you referring to my escapist tendencies, Charlie asked? I believe I am, Lydia responded, I saw the look on your face during our conversation at Danny’s party. What look, Charlie asked? You know what look, because I gave you a look myself afterward, Lydia said. You think I am still playing tie up games with Hank, Charlie asked? Well, she replied, I wouldn’t put it past either of you two, but I was talking about your son. You think Danny is into tie up games, he replied? I am asking if you know if he is, Lydia replied. Not for nothing, she continued, I am his mom and I do notice things. Like what, Charlie asked? Like since he was eight or nine, Danny has always given a sideways glance to a piece of rope, bathrobe string, or any movie that involved someone tied up. You noticed this behavior that long ago and never said anything to me, Charlie asked? I figured you would have seen the signs, Lydia said, there isn’t much that kid has done without you. Let’s make this easy, She continued, if he is, and you know he is and are keeping an eye on him, just tell me he is fine. If you haven’t noticed anything, and he hasn’t said anything, tell me you have no idea. But, don’t lie to me, Lydia warned, you know I will see right through that. He is fine, Charlie said. Good, she said, I figured so. Just so you are aware, Lydia said, I gave him a gift certificate with his other presents for the hardware store. Hank’s store, Charlie asked? Yes, she replied, if he needs it to get good materials for this hobby, make sure he uses his certificate to gets good stuff. Try to help him, Lydia said, I know you will help him be safe. You really are something, Charlie replied, Danny is lucky to have you. No, Lydia said, he is really lucky to have you, and I know that. Thank you, Charlie said, I will try to keep him out of trouble, no matter what he is working on. I know you will, she said, maybe he can watch you and Hank on one of your game nights. Hey, Charlie said, do you really think we are still playing this game after all these years? I know you are Charlie, she replied, and I am glad you have fun with it. Just be careful, she laughed, I don’t want you not making it to work one day. You haven’t changed a bit Lydia, Charlie replied, but thanks for watching out for the two of us. I still do love you both you know, she said, just can’t live with you. Well, Charlie replied, I hope your new love interest gives you what you are looking for, and takes care of you as well. Charlie O’Hara, Lydia said, I do not need someone watching over me! But thanks, she said, I will keep you posted.

Charlie saw Lydia off at the airport and headed home. Danny didn’t need to know that his mother has been aware of his penchant for wanting to be tied up. Pretty smart woman, he thought, but she was right, can’t live together. Better this way for the both of them.

Charlie arrived home from the airport and sat down at the kitchen table. He was still sitting there when Danny came home from school. Mom get off at the airport okay, Danny asked. Yes, Charlie replied, she did. Did you enjoy your visit with your mom, Charlie asked? Yes, Danny replied, we really did have a good time together. You know though, Danny said, I think she suspects that I have a thing for rope or being tied. You mother is a smart woman, Charlie said, and she knows your dad’s past, so I’m sure she was testing the water to see if you would let on if you were. I almost thought at one point I could tell her, Danny replied, but I wasn’t sure how she would take it. I’m sure she would have an open mind, Charlie replied, but she would want you to be safe. You want me to be safe, Danny said, so I guess my mom would too. Also, Danny said, do you know what she got me for my birthday? I know she gave you money to put toward your driver’s license costs and insurance, Charlie said, was there more? Yeah, Danny said, a fifty dollar gift card for Mr. Keagan’s hardware store. Why would she give me that, he asked? Maybe she thought you would need it for any projects you would want to work on, Charlie said, or maybe she wanted you to get good tying materials if you needed them. You think she knows, Danny asked? I wouldn’t be surprised, Charlie answered, but I can’t say for sure. Maybe I will tell her about it when I go out there later, Danny said, but I want to get better at this before I let her know. Sounds fair, Charlie said.

Dad, Danny asked, now that mom’s gone, can you tie me up? Seriously, Charlie answered, you just got home from school. Do you have homework to do, Charlie asked, you know you have to go to work tomorrow morning at the grocery store. I know, Danny replied, but I don’t have any homework, and it’s been so long since I’ve been able to be tied up. I have been looking forward to it all week. Oh Danny, Charlie said, what am I going to do with you? How about a nice hogtie, Danny said, that would be good. Only you, Charlie said, go get changed, I will be up to rig you shortly. Thanks dad! Danny cheered as he ran up the steps to his room. I’ll be waiting in the spare room.

Post by **Camguy2050** » 3 weeks ago

mothers always know

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 3 weeks ago

Part 16

Charlie made his way up the stairs toward the spare bedroom. He was almost surprised to see Danny there waiting for him, already changed into his shorts and tee shirt. You’re not in a hurry are you, Charlie teased. Okay, kid, Charlie said, how do you want to be tied up this time?

I would like a nice snug hogtie, Danny said, and you can gag me again, but no blindfold. Training rope or the more difficult rope, Charlie asked. The nylon rope, Danny specified. Okay, Charlie responded, there are a couple of things we have to get clear before I tie one knot. What is that, Danny replied? First, we need to decide what kind of signal you are going to give me once you are gagged, Charlie stated. I have an idea, he continued, tell me if you agree. One finger snap means you want to be released immediately, Charlie said, then two finger snaps if you want me to remove the gag to tell me what you want. Can I add another signal, Danny asked? Like what, Charlie asked? Three finger snaps to add more time. How much time, Charlie asked? Fifteen minutes, Danny said nervously. Okay, Charlie replied, but you can only add time twice. After that you need to be untied if you haven’t escaped. Sounds good to me, Danny said, what was the other thing? How much time do I put on the timer for you to try to beat, Charlie replied. Thirty minutes, Danny said, you told us thirty minutes should be the normal for a hogtie. That is a good start, Charlie replied, and at some point, you will get good enough, the time will become less. Cool, Danny replied, I can’t wait to get as good as you. You don’t even know how good I really am, Charlie laughed. No, He replied, but Mr. Keagan says you were really fast. He might have a better idea, Charlie laughed.

Okay, Charlie said, let’s get this started. Hands behind your back in front of me. Charlie had Danny try to cross his wrists, and he moved them into position. Charlie grabbed a ten foot length of nylon rope and began to wrap loops around the outside of Danny's wrists, making sure to cinch the rope after every two loops. He then changed direction and wrapped loops between his wrists vertically, again cinching after every two wraps. Charlie finished by running the ropes in opposite directions in and around Danny’s wrists, placing the final knot at the top of his crossed wrists away from his fingers. Well, that is snug, Danny said. Just wait buddy, Charlie said, it isn’t over yet. Charlie grabbed a twenty-five foot length of rope and started wrapping loops around his chest and arms. Making sure to run cinch these ropes just as he did Danny’s wrists. He ran the ropes between Danny’s chest and arms cinching behind his arms on each side. He ran more loops around and finished by tying the final knot between Danny’s shoulder blades. Gee dad, don’t be afraid to test me, Danny sniped at his father. Time to gag someone I see, Charlie replied.

I’m not ready for Mmmph, Danny tried to say, but Charlie was ready and already pushed a balled up sock into his mouth. He tied a folded up bandanna around his mouth and head knotting it tightly behind his neck. Then, Danny’s eyes grew wide, when he heard the sound of duct tape being pulled from a roll. Danny tried to avoid Charlie’s wrapping the duct tape around his head, but he couldn’t move enough to stop him. Just for that kid, Charlie said, a few extra wraps will help keep you quiet. Charlie actually wrapped the duct tape around his mouth and neck six times, before tearing the tape and smoothing it out. Mmmph, Danny grunted in response, but it didn’t make much of any sound. Now, Charlie said, let me help you to the floor, so I can finish this.

Charlie grabbed Danny’s arm and helped him to the floor and made sure he was laying on his stomach. I think it would be in your best interest, Charlie said, to do what I ask without giving me grief, do you understand? Danny nodded his head that he would do what he was told. Charlie told Danny to lift his feet and cross his ankles. Danny did as asked, and Charlie used another ten foot length of rope to tie his ankles the same way he tied this wrists. He then took another coil of rope and tied one end to the center of the chest ropes and brought the rope through the center of Danny’s wrists, making a full loop around them, before threading it through his bound ankles and making a wrap through the center. From there, he pushed Danny’s ankles as far forward as possible and ran the rope through the center of the chest ropes again, cinching it off and knotting it. Since he still had rope left, he doubled back to Danny’s ankles and wrapped a few loops around his ankles, finally tying the last knot as far away from Danny’s fingers as possible.

Charlie stood up and went over to the closet to open the door so Danny could see himself and the binding he was up against. Charlie set his watch alarm for 30 minutes and told Danny he was able to start his escape. He waited a minute or two before he left the room, closing the door behind him. He wanted to give Danny room to work on his escape without somebody looking over his shoulder. He went down to the living room and sat in his recliner, turned on the TV and sat back.

Danny was busy feeling out the hogtie he asked for. Somehow he thought that the nylon rope would be easier to escape from than the cotton clothesline his dad tied him up with last time. His arms were pinned to his sides and didn’t have much movement, his ankles were crossed, which meant his knees were separated and wasn’t able to roll over. There were no knots in reach no matter how he twisted his wrists, or moved his fingers. He wasn’t sure what to do, and he couldn’t think of anything to make enough slack to aid in his escape. After resting for a moment, his mind started to take stock of his current situation. He realized he wasn’t in any pain, no real discomfort, and he was really enjoying being this well tied. He waited for this all week, he thought, I should really just take the time to enjoy it. So he relaxed and just enjoyed being so well tied.

Charlie was looking at his watch. Still had ten minutes before he could go up to see if he was able to escape. I hope he isn’t too comfortable just lying there tied, Charlie began to think. The whole idea behind this was to teach Danny how to find his way out of these challenges. If he can learn how to use his mind to figure his way out, as well as his physical body to make it happen, he would be able to manage so many other problems in his life that had nothing to do with being tied up. Critical thinking, or logic, as Charlie liked to call it, was the thing that helped Charlie to get to the place he was at work and at home. He knew how to solve problems when they arose, or at least find ways to make things easier. I need to motivate him to keep trying to find his way out, Charlie thought, but how? Charlie started to get a sly grin on his face as he thought of the perfect motivator for Danny.

Danny had been laying there a while and realized that his time would soon be up. He didn’t want his dad to think that he wasn’t trying to find his way out, so he better at least look like his was trying. He started rocking and pulling at anything he could get his fingers around, which wasn’t much. The rocking seemed to be making the ropes tighter. Why would that be happening, he started to wonder. They were just fine when I was laying here. He stopped rocking and decided to start moving his ankles closer to his wrists. It was almost impossible, but he could bring them forward a little. It did create a little bit of slack, but he wasn’t able to reach anything yet, or slip his hands from anything. He kept trying but it was making him very warm and tired at the same time. There has to be a way out of this, he thought. I know dad was able to escape from these hogties, as he saw the pictures. How did his dad do it? What was his secret. It was then he heard the door to the room open.

Charlie made it upstairs in time to see Danny struggling with the hogtie he put him in. Well, Charlie said, doesn’t look like you are getting too far son. Let’s check out your wrists and ankles to make sure there aren’t any pinch points. Charlie inspected his son’s wrists, arms, legs, and feet. There was no sign of rope stress or blood flow issues. So kid, Charlie asked, what do you want me to do? Danny snapped his fingers three times. So, Charlie replied, you want more time. I will give you fifteen more minutes, but there is something I need to do first.

Danny looked up at his dad with a questioning look. Seems you might need a little incentive to try a little harder to find your way out. What to do, Charlie said, hmm, I wonder. Charlie walked over to the desk and opened one of the drawers. He pulled something out, but Danny could not see what it was. Charlie walked around Danny, making sure to keep the object hidden as he made his way to Danny’s feet. Danny could see his father standing behind his bound ankles and waited to see what his father was up to. Well Danny, Charlie said, I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve decided to help you find the motivation to work a little harder. With that, Charlie revealed the item he has been hiding. A hairbrush, Danny thought, how is a hairbrush going to motivate me? I’m sure you are wondering how this item will help, Charlie said, and I will tell you now, it isn’t to spank you. So you can relax from that thought. No, I’ve decided the best way to motivate you was to attack those soles of yours. With that, Charlie took the hairbrush and ran the bristles over the soles of Danny’s feet. Danny lurched from the feeling. It tickled him, and it was intense. Oh come one, Charlie said, one brush isn’t going to do it, and began to go after Danny’s soles with gusto. Danny couldn’t control his movements, or the laughter that was trying to force it’s way out from his gagged mouth. Danny’s body was actually hopping on his stomach trying to get away from his dad’s relentless attack. No, Danny’s screamed through his gag, but it wasn’t at all understandable gagged as well as he was. Charlie kept at it for a full minute before stopping and allowing his son to regain his composure and his breath. Danny was now sweating and moaning into his gag. Okay, Charlie said after a few minutes, I will give you another fifteen minutes from now to find your way out. If you don’t get out by then, I just might have to do this again. Charlie set his watch alarm and walked out of the room.

Danny laid there recovering from the intense tickling his feet just received. Once he could begin to think again, he tested the ropes to see if any of the movement he made while being tickled loosened anything. To his surprise, he did have a little more slack, but how to maximize it to escape? He realized that when he relaxed, he had more slack and slightly more movement. So he tried again to move his ankles closer to his wrists, and the slack allowed him to move some of the loops around his wrists. He kept reaching with his fingers while continuing to bend his ankles forward. Then he felt something. It was a rope end, but to what? He kept after it and followed it to a knot. Straining as best he could to get a hold of the knot, he was able to start prying at it with his fingers and was starting to make some headway with untying it. It seemed like forever until the knot finally gave way, and he was able to loosen his wrists ropes a bit. He tried unwrapping the rope around his wrists, coping with undoing the multiple cinches his dad used to keep things snug. At last he was able to pull one of his wrists free from the ropes. Now to try to undo the other knots, especially the one holding his legs up. It took him a few minutes to finally get hold of the knot between his shoulder blades and undo it. His legs released, but would not fall to the floor. With his ankles crossed, it was impossible for them to hit the floor.

Danny continued working on untying the other knots that were tied between his shoulder blades. What Danny wasn’t aware of, is that his fifteen minutes had passed and that his dad was standing in the doorway. Charlie just waited and watched as his son worked his way out of the hogtie. There he stood, cheering him on silently, so as not to disturb him. Danny was engaged fully in his escape, and Charlie didn’t want to interrupt him. Danny continued to work on the knots until he was finally able to get enough slack to remove the ropes from his upper arms and chest. Now he could turn over on his side and undo the knots holding his ankles crossed. It was then that Danny noticed his dad standing in the doorway watching him. He tried to say something, but realized he hadn’t removed the gag. Charlie just told Danny to proceed and not worry about him. Danny continued his endeavors to untie his ankles and after several pained attempts, finally escaped the last of his roping. Danny laid down flat for a second or two, before realizing he still had the gag to remove. He found the end of the duct tape and began to unravel it from around his head. He then untied the bandanna and spit out the sock that filled his mouth for the last hour.

Charlie handed Danny a bottle of water and sat down on the bed next to where Danny was laying on the floor. So, Charlie asked, how do you feel? Tired, Danny replied almost too quickly. Okay, other than tired, Charlie asked, how are you feeling? Well, a little sore from all the stretching and straining, but otherwise okay. Can I shower, Danny asked? Sure, Charlie replied, you deserve that after that workout. The roping wasn’t as much a workout as trying to escape that tickling you were doing to my feet, Danny said. Well, Charlie said, it did seem to motivate you. Oh, that was motivation all right, Danny said, am I to expect that every-time I don’t get out by the first time limit? Not exactly that tickling, Charlie said, but something to make sure you aren’t just lying there enjoying the moment. Dad, Danny said, I admit, I did waste some time enjoying being tied up like that after waiting so long for this opportunity, but I did intend to escape it. Look, Charlie said, when we have our sessions with Larry, escaping has to be the focus. If you are just looking for someone to tie you up, without wanting to escape, Charlie stressed, Larry and Hank are both going to know it. As for being tied up to enjoy the feeling, let’s keep that for when you want to relax before going to sleep for the night.

Dad, Danny said, I do want to escape, and I want to be at least as good as you are. I know I told you that I like to be tied, Danny continued, but it isn’t always because I like the feeling of being that way. So, Charlie said, is this for escape or enjoyment then? Escape, Danny said, when I want to be tied just to be tied up, I will tell you. And yes, Danny said, that is what I am looking for when I can’t sleep. Didn’t you ever feel that way. Danny asked? Rarely, Charlie said, but I won’t lie, there were sometimes that I just liked to feel the ropes hugging my body. Kind of like as hug in a way, Danny added. Is that how you see it, Charlie asked? Yes, Danny said, especially when it is done by you. So you don’t get that feeling from Larry tying you, Charlie asked. No, Danny said, that is totally a contest between me and him, not something to relax with. I am somewhat confused but what you are saying, Charlie replied, but I think I get where you are coming from. Just let me know if something changes with this. I will dad, Danny said, I promise.

Post by **WhereAmI** » 3 weeks ago

I can just see Danny's fingers going into automatic 3-snap-mode as soon as the first 30 minutes start. Danny loves this new game/occupation, the longer and tighter the merrier.

Post by **Chairtiedguy** » 1 week ago

Part 17

It was after supper that same evening when the doorbell rang. That will probably be Hank and Larry, Charlie said to Danny. Hopefully this won’t be a long drawn out discussion on when we can get together to train you and Larry, Charlie moaned as he didn’t seem to eager to have this meeting at all. That is why he was secretly hoping to keep Hank out of this training, he will drag it out, and he wasn’t sure Hank would be the best influence on the boys. The boys should be able to play their games without being told what they needed to be doing. All he wanted to do was give them safety tips and hints so they could work on it their way without someone else getting in the way. That’s all I need is Hank getting into how you have to be able to keep your competitor tied to win.

Danny opened the door to see Hank and Larry standing in the doorway. Come on in, Danny said, we are setting up in the kitchen. Sure thing Danny, Hank said, as he directed Larry into the living room. At first, Danny thought that something with Larry didn’t seem right. He had an oversized hoodie on, and his arms weren’t in the sleeves. Not only that, his head was almost completely covered by the hood. You in there, Danny said, as he got closer to Larry. Hank dropped Larry’s hood to show that Larry was heavily gagged. He pulled the hoodie off of Larry to show that Larry had his wrists tied behind his back, his arms and chest tied with multiple wraps of rope, and his elbows tied almost together.

Hank steered the boys into the kitchen, with Danny confused as to why Larry was tied up and gagged. Charlie took one look at Larry and made a pained expression. What have you done to your son, Charlie asked Hank? He is serious about wanting to learn to escape, Hank replied, so I am helping him to get as much practice as possible. We are supposed to be having a meeting that everyone can participate in, Charlie said, how will he be able to speak or contribute all bound and gagged like that? I thought we were supposed to make the plans, Hank said, and they were supposed to practice. Everyone has to contribute to this conversation, Charlie said, so I think you should let him out of that for our meeting. I can just take off the gag, Hank said, then he can put his two cents in, Seriously, Charlie challenged, I think you need to cut him loose. I want to be sure he is able to concentrate on the discussion rather than how to find his way out of that situation. Fine, Hank said, I was hoping we could let the boys work on their practicing while we went over things. Let’s see how long this takes, Charlie said, and then they can tell us what they would like to do. Hank began to untie Larry and remove the gag after he undid the knots. You can get the rest off yourself, Hank said to Larry. Larry spent the next few minutes removing the rope still attached to him. Sadly, Charlie thought to himself, Larry looks like he isn’t happy with this entrance, so I hope he won’t get turned off of doing this. Danny would be lost without someone his age to work with.

Once they were all free, they sat around the kitchen table. Charlie had a white board next to the table, and paper and pens if anyone wanted to write things down. Okay, Charlie said, the idea here is to make a tentative schedule for Hank and I to be able to work with you boys on doing these challenges safely and hopefully with a lot of fun. It is not the intention to become the riggers for your challenges, rather, you boys should attempt your challenges on your own time, and we will use our time to demonstrate and answer questions you may have. Are we all in agreement with this? Danny eagerly replied yes, Larry looked at Danny first before he answered yes as well. Hank looked confused. Wait, Hank said, so we aren’t putting aside time to tie these boys up? We are if that’s what they want, Charlie replied, but this is something they need to work on together without us looking over their shoulders. I only said I would help them learn how to do that safely, and provide a safe place for them to work on it. I have a room at the store that is unused that they can use as well without someone walking in on them, Hank said. I just need to know when they are using the room, he continued, as I wouldn’t want to accidently lock them in the store. So, Charlie said, are we good to proceed with scheduling now?

Danny asked if they had to schedule Larry and his sessions now, or if this was just for the days that the training sessions would be. This is just for the sessions with me and Hank to help you guys, Charlie replied. So, Danny asked, I don’t have my work schedule for more than two weeks at a time, how can we make a long range plan? Well, Hank said, that is a good question. Perhaps, Hank continued, we should just find a time that will work for everyone in the next week or two, and then schedule the later sessions as we know everyone’s schedules. That will work for me, Danny replied, how about you Larry? I can pretty much make any time that Dad will let me, Larry said, I will be working at the hardware store. So, Charlie said, doesn’t look like we are going to be able to do any long range planning here, except for ideas on what you two boys would like us to cover for you. Danny’s eyes got wide at that statement, and he looked directly at Larry. What, Larry asked Danny? Can Larry and I have a few mintes to discuss this before we give you an answer Danny asked? Sure, Charlie replied, you two go upstairs and come down when you have things worked out. Danny and Larry headed out of the kitchen and Hank gave Charlie a look.

What, Charlie asked Hank, is there something wrong? What are we doing here, Hank asked, you want the boys to make up their own schedule? Yes, Charlie said, this is for them, not us. We had our time, Charlie said, we have to let them do this their way. Excuse me, Hank said, I thought you wanted to make sure they were safe and under watchful eye. I want them to play safe, Charlie said, but no matter what we do, they will find their own way of doing these challenges. If we get into the mix, Charlie continued, they may actually resent us for not letting them have control over their own lives. They are 16, Hank said, they aren’t adults yet. You are right, Charlie answered, however, they are old enough to work, get a driver’s license, and still manage their classes and sports. We have to let them become self reliant, and that includes doing this. Why do you look cross, Charlie asked? I thought we were going to teach the boys how to tie and hints to escape. I thought we would be making sure they were practicing regularly and honing their skills. Now you tell me they should be in control of this? Yes, Charlie said. If this doesn’t work for you, you can say no, walk Larry out of here and train him on your own as you see fit. But, Charlie said, you risk alienating him and deciding he wants nothing to do with it. Well, if he doesn’t want to do it, Hank replied, I am not going to force him. No, Charlie said snarkily, is that why you brought Larry here bound and gagged? He wants to know how to escape, Hank said, he was working on it on the way over. Your idea or his, Charlie asked? Well, Hank said, maybe I suggested it. Before or after you had his hands tied behind him, Charlie replied. Before, Hank said, I am not a villain. I just don’t want your enthusiasm to help, Charlie answered, to overstep what Larry wants to do. He’s my son, Hank replied, I will raise him the way I see best. I am not trying to tell you how to raise your son, Charlie replied, I just don’t want you or Larry end up having a bad experience with this. Sorry, if you thought that I was telling you how to raise him, Charlie said, I won’t say anything from here on out.

Meanwhile, Danny and Larry had gone up to Danny’s room to talk. What do you think about this, Danny asked? You mean making a time table to play our challenges, Larry answered, or times to work with our dads? Both, Danny replied. I have to work Saturday mornings, Sunday afternoons, and one or two nights a week at the grocery store. How many hours do you have to work a week, Larry asked? No more than sixteen, Danny replied, but my schedule is flexible for sporting practices and events. So when are you available to play games and this training our dads want to give us, Larry asked. Saturday afternoons and evenings, and maybe a Friday night here and there. I don’t know if my dad will want to do this on Sundays. What about you, Danny asked, when are you available? Since I can’t legally work for the hardware store for a couple of weeks yet, Larry said, I don’t have a schedule. I just go help my dad when he needs me to. So, Danny said, do we just go with Saturday evenings for the dads training and leave the rest of the week for when we can get together? That’s the only thing I can think of at the moment, Larry replied. Hey, Larry said, do you hear our dads arguing? They both stood silent for a moment, but neither heard anything more. We should get back down there, Danny said, but one question first. What, Larry asked? Why were you tied up like that when you arrived here tonight? That was my dad’s idea, Larry said, wants me to learn as much as I can as quick as I can so I can win most of our challenges. So extra practice, Danny said, are you up for that? Not always, Larry said, Dad likes to make sure I am tied up very strictly so I can learn what it feels like. Does your dad tie you up too? Only when I ask him, Danny replied, and then I have to tell him how I want to be tied up. You’re lucky then, Danny said, my dad just grabs me and next thing I know I am tied, gagged, and left to work it out. Does he leave you that way long, Danny asked? Usually I am let out in an hour, but only after he tells me I don’t look like I’m trying hard enough. My dad wasn’t sure on one of the tie ups I ask for, Danny said, if I was really trying. Did he do anything or just let you know he expected more, Larry asked? Actually, Danny said, I signalled that I wanted more time, so he tickled the bottoms of my feet for a moment to give me some incentive. Did that work, Larry asked? Actually, it did help me after it was over, Danny said, I moved around so much trying to get away from his tickling that I loosened up the ropes some and I was able to free myself. You are lucky, Larry said, at least your dad waits for you to tell him you want a challenge, and tries something fun to motivate you. That tickling was torture, Danny said, well not really, but I couldn’t wait for it to stop. Was your dad happy you got out. Yes, Danny said, he was very glad I managed to get out. Would you want him to do that to you again, Larry asked? Maybe, Danny blushed, because while it was torture, it was so much fun and I kind of enjoyed it. Maybe we should add that to our challenges, Larry said, you know to add something to get away from. Maybe, Danny said, and maybe something else. Like what, Larry asked? Not sure, Danny said, but we might think of something else. Hey, Larry said, we better get back there before they come looking for us.

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